I'm chapped - I've got 3.07 gears

[Chris S]

I wouldn't have realized it if I hadn't been trying to calibrate my speedo, but I have 3.07 gears in my TJ. Kind of a piss off considering I specifically asked the dealer for and paid for 3.73s.
I've been VERY happy with my dealer up to now, and I don't really blame the dealer, I blame the salesperson, but we'll see on Monday what happens when I talk to the manager. I plan to tell him that I want the gears changed (yeah, right :P) or the extra I paid returned to me. Problem is that I will have a hard time proving any of this, and the salesman is no longer there.

This explains why I've felt the power of my TJ is WAY less than my XJ, and why I've felt like it dogs on steep hills. Surprisingly I can still do the speed limit on the highway, even with 33s.

[lonegpr]

If you still have any paperwork that mentions the fact that you paid for 3.73's, I'd push for either having them install them or refunding you the difference.

Push for the 3.73's over the refund. Heck, I'd not even mention refund, just new gearing. Refund won't cover the cost of new gears and installation.

[DanB98TJ]

Originally posted by lonegpr
[BPush for the 3.73's over the refund. Heck, I'd not even mention refund, just new gearing. Refund won't cover the cost of new gears and installation.

I agree. You probably couldn't even buy the parts to swap in 3.73s with the amount they would refund. I would raise hell, and if they aren't willing to correcting the problem, talk to an attorney about what options are available to you. The salesperson obviously scewed up, and the dealer needs to make it right.

[Jerry Bransford]

I'm with Dwayne on this, but I'd come loaded for bear.:D Show on the paperwork where you paid extra and claim you will take them to small claims court if they don't do the right thing. Tell them that while a 3.07 instead of a 3.73 may not seem like a big thing to them, that it is a HUGE thing to a Jeep enthusiast who needs the lower gearing advantage of the 3.73!

[DanB98TJ]

Oh, and BTW, I have 3.07s too, and they suck!!!!http://www.ilovejeeps.net/images/icons/icon18.gif

[Jerry Bransford]

Dan, tell us how you REALLY feel about your 3.07 gearing.:D:D

[flip]

you know what's really funny? 3.07's in a TJ turns 31's a whole lot better than 3.55's in my ZJ. it's a sad, sad world. :(

[DanB98TJ]

Dan, tell us how you REALLY feel about your 3.07 gearing.:D:D

Well, I would....but I think the "censor" would block my true feelings on the matter.:p

[Chris S]

Unfortunately I never saw the spec sheet on this Jeep. It was brought in from another dealer and was prepped before I saw it, so I never checked the options. I just figured that since I specifically said I need 2 things - Solar Yellow and 3.73 gears that the Jeep would have them. The Jeep had the 30" tire package, but the dealer kept the tires and wheels since I didn't want them. I didn't actually pay seperately for the gears, but the dealer only gave me back about half the option value of teh 30" tires & wheels because they claimed the gears were part of the cost of the option.

[flip]

have the dealer run the VIN to get the build sheet. should tell you if it actually came w/ the 30" tire package. that includes the d44 and 3.73 gears if i remember correctly. do you even have the d44 rearend? i'm not even sure the d44 was available w/ 3.07's. hope you didn't get shafted out of the axle too.

[scooper]

arent there leters(codes)somewere on the axel.my dana 30 front and amc 20 rear both have number codes that tell what gears are whithin.

[Chris S]

The D44 is an option. It does not always come with the 30" tires. I wanted the D44, but there were none left anywhere near me, and the sale that was on did not apply to ordered vehicles.

I never checked the dif tag until yesterday. It does say 3.07 on the tag.

[Chris S]

The sales manager of my dealership pulled out the 2000 model options and it says very specifically that the 30" tire and wheel package includes 3.73 gears. No notes or qualifiers. In the 2001 options it states that the 3.73 gears are optional with an Auto tranny, but that book was not out at the time I bought my Jeep. The manager is going to call Chrysler Monday and tell them that they have to live up to what they printed and provide me with 3.73s parts and install at no cost. :D
The question yet remaining is what the Chrysler rep will say about it, but if the sales manager is pushing for it to happen I figure there's a very good chance it will.

[DanB98TJ]

Good luck! Sounds like your dealer is willing to step up and get the problem corrected.

Makes you wonder if the "other dealer" just slapped on a set of 30" tires and wheels just to get the $$$....sure sounds like it to me.:mad:

[Chris S]

...Makes you wonder if the "other dealer" just slapped on a set of 30" tires and wheels just to get the $$$...

Nope. We checked the build sheet to see if that happened. The Jeep left the factory with the 3.07 gears and the 30" tire and wheel package.

[lonegpr]

Maybe it's a Canadian import thing.

I know with my TJ and the 30" wheel pkg, 3.73's were standard, considering the larger wheel size. Same went for my wife's TJ and 30" wheel pkg, though her's has the D44 and mine has the D35. :(

[Jerry Bransford]

That's great news Chris, keep us posted.

[BrewJeep]

Maybe it's a Canadian import thing.

I think you're right. If I recall, the 30" package comes standard with 3.07s in Canada.

The export market for Jeep is a little different than what we're used to stateside. For example, TJs imported into Australia come with Dana 44-3s -- even 4 cylinder models, if I remember correctly -- and the 44-3 comes standard with 3.07s, at least with the 6 cyl.

--Paul

[Chris S]

I think you're right. If I recall, the 30" package comes standard with 3.07s in Canada.
...--Paul

Well, that may be the case, but if so the dealers code book is wrong. Under 30" tire and wheel package it states that it includes a fullsize spare, 3.73 gears, and something else (can't remember what) and that the spare tire cover is not available with it. Nothing about 3.07s with an auto or anything else.
In the 2001 book if you try to order 3.73 gears as a seperate option it states that they are included with 30" tires and 5 speed, but it still lists them as included with the 30" tires with no further qualifications.

[Lauti]

Ditto what BrewJeep wrote, the Dana 44-3 with 3.07 gears and Trak-Loc is also standart in the U.K.
We in Austria get the Dana 35C with 3.07 gears and Trak-Loc on any TJ. Be it a 4-banger, a six, a std. shifter or an automatic. Nothing else to order, no Dana 44-3 option, no 3.73 gear option, no 30" tire option. The 3.73 gears have been canceled by European authorities because the engine was revving too high during emission tests, the TJ wouldn't have passed with anything larger than 3.07 in the pumpkins.